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Bailout Bill Passes the Senate

  • Written by Mike VonastenMike Vonasten 67 Comments67 Comments Comments
    Last Updated: October 1st, 2008

    With All Of Its Little Sweeteners to Seal The Deal

    RestoreTheRepublic.com

    by Michael Vonasten

    The United States Senate passed the ‘New and Improved’ bailout bill this evening (Oct. 1, 2008).  With a 74 aye and 25 nay vote, the bill passed in a landslide.  I guess the Senate isn’t listening to Americans when we voice our extreme opposition to this ‘Billionaire Bailout’.

    The bill is scheduled to go in front of the House on Friday.

    Unlike the House bill, this bill has all kinds of fun little measures included to entice both Republicans and Democrats to vote aye.  The House bill was 110 pages; this one is 450.  It includes raising FDIC insurance from $100,000 to $250,000, federal aid to rural schools, and a landmark health provision requiring insurance companies to provide coverage to mental health patients.  It is just enough to entice a large bi-partisan effort in the House.

    The bill also allows the FDIC to borrow an unlimited amount of money from the Treasury Department until the end of next year to cover the increased insurance limit.

    This bill is even more dangerous than the last one.  While still being a bailout for bankers that are engaged in bad mortgage loans, this bill has sweeteners designed to be well-received.

    This is another call to action.  We need all freedom and free-market loving individuals to put the pressure back on the House of Representatives.  We need to jam their switchboards, email inboxes, and fax machines.  We need to storm into their offices and demand that our money will not be used to keep the elite’s balance sheets balanced.

    This an incredibly unprecedented time we are witnessing in our nation’s history.  We are watching America go from a government-controlled market to an all-out corporate socialist state.  It is time to get down and dirty and show them what we are made of.

    Let’s get busy.

    Call the congress switch board at: (202) 224-3121

    Find your congress person’s contact info here: http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW_by_State.shtml

67 Comments
  1. #1 Brian
    October 1st, 2008 at 9:30 pm

    Now is the time to call our Congress men and women, and once again let them no, NO MEANS NO!!

    Flood the lines, fill the email boxes and let your voice be heard!!

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  2. #2 AliceInWonderland
    October 1st, 2008 at 9:32 pm

    There is a list of those senators who voted “Nay” at cspan.org, so you can deduce who sold you out. Get on the phone with reps, better yet, visit them - E-mails probably not as effective

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  3. #3 AliceInWonderland
    October 1st, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    Tell them that tax breaks and extra FDIC insurance added onto the bill as “sweeteners” will be MOOT when dollar crashes!

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  4. #4 Just Me
    October 1st, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    How slippery the slope is getting. We were told it would be voted on Thur. so they do it Wed. We need to make them aware they are our voice, OUR REPRESENTATION. We need to take this to the everyday people, protest and inform with a grass roots effort at…Walmart, McDonalds and anywhere else the everyday low to middle income American likes to frequent. We need to make people aware of what is at stake, that are happily just another sheeple in the flock. We witness unprecedented greed.

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  5. #5 MuddleVanHeck
    October 1st, 2008 at 11:12 pm

    How did an insurance mandate make it’s way into this bill? HOW DID EDUCATIONAL FUNDING make it’s way here? What?

    Call your Congress!!!

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  6. #6 Millie
    October 1st, 2008 at 11:19 pm

    Can you say “EARMARKS”. I think you can….

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  7. #7 Kachina
    October 1st, 2008 at 11:20 pm

    I have been fighting and getting all my friends on Myspace and elsewhere to fight. I love those that stand in the front-lines, however, it is my strongest opinion, the same way Bush slipped into the White House this Bail Out is going to pass! The Powers Behind the Throne have us all right where they want us, ignorant, naive and too weak or broken or imprisoned to fight back.

    GET OUT AND VOTE AMERICA….you can blame no one but those who did not vote. Get the Rotten Apples out of Washington. They are destroying all that we Love!

    Sadly,
    Kachina

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  8. #8 ibdriving
    October 1st, 2008 at 11:27 pm

    I wrote emails every day for the last week and a half Called each office. Yesterday and today the House.gov contact page for my representative was down so I faxed to his DC, hometown and the state offices and had no trouble getting through. I sent each Chuck Baldwin’s plan to fix the issue and also Dave Ramsey’s simple solution. The fax numbers are on the contact page for your Rep.

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  9. #9 mrf
    October 1st, 2008 at 11:28 pm

    I have numerous concerns about this bill, all which echo positions enumerated by Ron Paul. However, I clicked on this site to further clarify the factual points of failure in this bill, only to find emotional ranting. While our representatives clearly do not, lack of content render us equally impotent…

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  10. #10 constijewstion
    October 1st, 2008 at 11:36 pm

    One wonders…. will they, could they… do you think this could be the beginning of the dangling of a National Healthcare Policy in front of those folks walking into Walmart and Macs?

    Sounds like 450 tedious pages of pure wreckage to the Constitution - compare it to the 588 page 911 Commission Report.

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  11. #11 Doc Anderson
    October 1st, 2008 at 11:37 pm

    YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE IT. THIS BAILOUT BILL IS NOT ABOUT AMERICAN BANKS OR ASSETS.

    The truth was outed on Kudlow’s 9/30 show by Brad Sherman (D-CA). Watch the video, then RAISE HELL RIGHT NOW with your Congress Critters. THIS BILL MUST NOT PASS!!!

    “Hundreds of billions of dollars are going to bail out FOREIGN INVESTORS. They know it, they demanded it, and the bill has been carefully written to make sure that can happen.” - Brad Sherman , D-California.

    http://www.kickthemallout.com/article.php/Video-Bailout_NOT_About_American_Assets

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  12. #12 Swiller
    October 1st, 2008 at 11:42 pm

    Time to call it a day boys, and girls…..We live in Disneyland… Wake me when the revolution begins.

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  13. #13 David
    October 1st, 2008 at 11:46 pm

    Our constitution is on display at the Capitol. It is located at the front door on the ground with a sign reading “Please wipe your feet before entering” and our ELECTED officials have no problem following those instructions. Liberty demands our attention. We have a duty to the people who have or are serving, as well as those who fought and died. Our Founders warned of this. Our apathy has contributed to this mess. ENOUGH!!!

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  14. #14 Willworkforfood
    October 1st, 2008 at 11:50 pm

    I applaud your anger, and I share it….. But..
    Apparently, most of you don’t understand that 30-40% unemployment means you. History always repeats itself. Read about the first Great Depression. $1000 at the beginning equaled $89 at the end….And yes the U.S government extended it.
    Yes, the douchebags on Wall street and in Washington(look at the Rep’s in charge of oversight of Fanny and Freddy if you need to assign blame) have already ruined your future. This is just a psychological band-aid. We’d all better pray that it works. The socialist aspect makes me throw up in my mouth. If a certain someone gets elected, we all may begin to cherish our 2cnd amendment rights.

    True, an utter collapse would bring accountability into a mostly unaccountable society. And yes, Ron Paul has always had it right when it comes to the economy. Check out this link, epescially the first you tube vid:
    http://mark-jones.blogspot.com/

    Our paper money will most likely be worthless in the VERY near future. Especially without a bail out. We’re all already broke. The only sound investments are Gold or Ammunition. (and Food) If you have one, you’re going to need the other….

    Don’t forget to consider your actions before you act.

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  15. #15 Willworkforfood
    October 1st, 2008 at 11:51 pm

    Ohh yeah, How did tax breaks for those that make arrows less than 5 1/16th? of an inch make it into this bill? Washington is broken.

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  16. #16 GeorgeRIP
    October 1st, 2008 at 11:58 pm

    Come on guys, George spelled it out to ya a while ago:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KReZyAZLI0

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  17. #17 Anna
    October 2nd, 2008 at 3:17 am

    Ron Paul is an uplifting voice in an otherwise dark mess.
    I suggest not only taking action to stop the bill from being passed (because although it is important that we act, protests alone wont make it this time, we have to change our way of living, and stand up and say NO) The government is supposed to work for us, but instead it is run by a small group of malignant people at the very top, pulling the strings. We need to awaken. It is up to us.

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  18. #18 MACE
    October 2nd, 2008 at 5:19 am

    I already called Martinez (voted yes) a Florida republican and told him I wouldnt vote for him. I also called Nelson(voted no) a Florida Democrat and said I’d vote for him. I am a Rep for 40 years and I never thought I’d vote for Senator Nelson.

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  19. #19 stepman
    October 2nd, 2008 at 5:36 am

    We must continue to bring the pressure from above and below. Some of us can get in the street and others can call and e-mail. Whatever effort we make must be pointed and come from the heart. The message is simple, “NO is NO”. What part of “NO” do you not understand? As long as they hear from us, their inaction will be their demise. Remember that a lot of the House is up for re-election. Whatever we do, WE CANNOT GIVE UP THE GOOD FIGHT. Call friends and associates, talk the talk and continue to stir the pot. The only action that is dire is inaction. Avoid the belief that “something bad will happen”. Can you live without your creditcard? If not, you better convert some cash to gold and $ilver before it is too late. WE MUST STOP THE ABROGATION OF OUR GOVERNMENT BY THOSE THAT WANT TO TAKE AWAY OUR FREEDOM.

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  20. #20 romandos
    October 2nd, 2008 at 6:14 am

    I wrote a letter several days ago stating a different point of view about the mess created in our beautiful powerful country. If we understand the Spiritual connection each country have, then it will be much easier to face reality. America had a destiny assigned by God, but now a reality show us that IT was messed up completely. Who did it?. If in the beginning It was God’s purpose, seems to me that now it is somebody else purpose. It is not new to see an empire fall down, and we -America- has the same past empires’ culture traits. We forgot real history, even more, the educators taught us the wrong history, so we’re obligated to pay the price.

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  21. #21 romandos
    October 2nd, 2008 at 6:32 am

    Cont. Even the Bible has history to show us the right government rules, so we would not mess up anymore, but our ministers didn’t understood it neither. As a Montessori teacher and a holistic practitioner, I comprehend the whole spectrum of the human controversy; we proved it for 6,000 not to be able to handle the planet’s affairs. We lost the real matter and reason to exist. We denied God as the Supreme Maker and accept the unproved evolution theory.
    If we came from animals, so let it be to act likewise: territorial, uncontrolled, conquerors, etc. etc. I REALLY APOLOGIZE MY SINCERENESS but what else I can say to be honest??. Likewise forgive my English. All of you are welcome to write to me to my e-mail romandos@msn.com

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  22. #22 Carlene
    October 2nd, 2008 at 6:36 am

    I am an irrate citizen with no rights ! I called.
    I should not have to call again ! I will call again but I should not have to call. This country is totally out of control and very close to full blown socialism.

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  23. #23 Scott R
    October 2nd, 2008 at 6:37 am

    You’re right, but the sad thing is, vote for who? Our only two possible choices for president are both doing their best to push this thing through. We’re screwed either way. It’s time to send a statement and vote for a 3rd party.

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  24. #24 TapperIsTicked
    October 2nd, 2008 at 6:41 am

    Comments sent last night in response to vote:

    Elected Representatives:

    As this text is going to be copied and pasted to each of my 3 Representatives at the Federal Level let me say this. Senator Feingold, thanks for the correct vote and reading the Patriot Act. Senator Kohl, I hope you find great success in managing the 1000th store the news stated was soon to open once the people can throw you out of office. Congressman Ryan, in your speech Monday you discussed your family. I hope you can dedicate all your time to them and none to screwing the people of this state any further.

    Gentlemen, the market has stated that Wall Street has assets on their books no one wants to buy. They have been classified as toxic. Your solution if the 228 Patriots in the House do not come back to the table is to pawn them off on my great great grand children. That is a crime.

    Senator Feinstein stated today that her office had received 92,000 calls. 85,000 of these calls were against. Hopefully CA is preparing the rail to run her out of town on. Every report states that calls to the Congressional offices are at minimum 9 to 1 against. Yet, we have two presidential candidates that stand up tonight and tell the nation to stick it. I don’t care if you want to call it a Socialist or a Fascist State. What bothers me greatly is that you can no longer call it a Democratic Republic.

    Post vote interviewees represented somewhere in the neighborhood of $50,000,000.00 in Frannie, bank and real estate lobbying money. There were what, 6 of them at the podium. They have the temerity to stand up and insinuate they did this for my kids benefit. That patronizing condescension gentlemen is why folks wish Kennedy’s ailment was contagious.

    $150,000,000,000 in sweeteners. I may have given you some insight into my Grandma Cordie before. She told me that you can sugar coat a turd but once you take a bite you know what it is. Those of you voting yes on this travesty should choke on the sweets.

    I would like to remind you that Article 1 Section 7 of the Constitution states that all bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives. Tonight we saw 2 presidential candidates and 99 Senators disgrace the document this country was founded on in calling for an unconstitutional vote. God help us if these 228 don’t stand firm.

    We have been at this for 2 weeks now and not once have I heard any call for eliminating the Fed and looking at the fractional reserve system that perpetuates this system of debt. A few swan dives off Citi and an implosion at 23 Wall might not be a bad thing.

    Senator Feingold, thank you for your vote and I hope you possess the leadership qualities needed to take this country back to the principles on which she was founded. Senator Kohl and Congressman Ryan, I pray your constituents take note and condemn you to time served.

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  25. #25 Paul from RI
    October 2nd, 2008 at 6:50 am

    IF you really want to make a statement every American should buy a gun the symbolism would be heard. When the government response is WTF.. We the people just said it’s our constitutional duty to take back a tyrant government.At this point we’ll have thier ears.

    Then email campain to repeal the federal researve act. and watch them squirm.

    I hope everyone knows this is much bigger then a 700 billion dollar bailout. These are the bankers “the minority” that run our country.

    “I care not who writes the laws..when I control it’s money” Who said this?

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  26. #26 Kevin Gallagher
    October 2nd, 2008 at 6:53 am

    support the Defazio- Marcy Kaptur NO BAILOUT LEGISLATION
    see it on YOU TUBE here
    Reps DeFazio and Kaptur on Lou Dobbs
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_m5u6rLaSU

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  27. #27 frank kolbmann
    October 2nd, 2008 at 7:02 am

    i’m merely a truck driver and i understand how this is rich get richer and poor get more poor. i speak with hundreds of people in my work each week and hear the same thing. i also am giving each the phone number to call rather than just whine bitch and moan about it.

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  28. #28 Paul from RI
    October 2nd, 2008 at 7:14 am

    Frank - 80% of the public don’t want this bailout they just voted on. The people did call and email.. They knew this….and they voted yay thus far anyway. They voted against the people. IF this bill passes with 80% of the public against it.. God help us. This statment by our government is far worse then any depression.

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  29. #29 May Hemm
    October 2nd, 2008 at 7:48 am

    Full-blown socialism? No, it’s worse than that.
    This infusion of ‘liquidity’ will never reach Main Street. Senate and Congress are at best, uninformed children - and at worst, firmly in the pockets of the shadow government who are running the show. The movers behind the scenes are globalists on a global stage. This infusion of US taxpayers’ dollars is destined for the coffers of foreign investors. Can no one out there (besides us) see that this solution is nothing but a hole dug deeper? What of the dollar? Those who understand the nature of the Federal Reserve, and know that fractional reserve banking is designed for one thing - to siphon off wealth from the middle and lower classes - have known for decades that they have intended (through deregulation of markets, hyper-inflation, and manipulation of the consumer mass mind) to crash it and assume full power. It’s been a slow coup.
    This week is the coup de gras.

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  30. #30 Real Change
    October 2nd, 2008 at 7:56 am

    Amen! Whats is wrong with voting for Ron Paul?It would seem that now is the time.With all thats going on and everone thats flooding the phones,faxes emails,ect. Suppose we all go to the polls and vote for Ron Paul! REMEMBER BOTH OF THE OTHER CHOICES VOTED YEA ON THE “BAIL OUT” BILL !ISN’T THIS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THEY DID NOT AND WILL NOT LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE!

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  31. #31 Kurt
    October 2nd, 2008 at 7:57 am

    I keep hearing the talking heads reporting that after the first bailout did not pass and the stock market took a dive that the calls, emails, ect to the congress started turning around and people now wanted action on the bailout. Does anyone believe that drible or are you all as skeptical about it as I am? Looking for political cover?

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  32. #32 May Hemm
    October 2nd, 2008 at 8:15 am

    Think about it - why is ‘credit’ so important?
    It’s because this is a debt-based system. That means the ones in charge (shareholders of the Fed) need for us (or the government) to owe them money for them to survive. But they don’t even LEND money! They order the Treasury to print notes and credit the banks electronically - with essentially NOTHING. It’s imaginary. They are repaid with our LABOR earnings (and only because someone at some point took out a loan!).
    WE ARE SLAVES IN AN IMAGINARY SLAVERY.

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  33. #33 May Hemm
    October 2nd, 2008 at 8:20 am

    @Kurt:
    Right on…
    MSM is twisting it to perfection, busily crafting public opinion. I was watching CSPAN when they took callers (after Senate passed it). The host was actually hanging up on people who voiced opposition - mid sentence.

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  34. #34 Eric R.
    October 2nd, 2008 at 8:52 am

    I’m at my wit’s end with Washington. First, it’s the illegal alien amnesty bill, over and over and over again. Now, it’s this. Every time, the people say “no”, yet these clowns are hell bent on destroying this country, one way or another. I’m done. They won’t and don’t listen to calls, faxes, or emails. They’re going to do whatever they want, and in the end, all of the United States will just sit on their hands. I’m going to forget about all of it, stock up on ammo, and wait for the fall….

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  35. #35 Pepper
    October 2nd, 2008 at 9:56 am

    Sorry, I think its time now not to pay our taxes, that is where they get the money…. we can print this stuff all day long temporarily but in the end our taxes are what they need.

    We need to separate from them economically and financially and now is the perfect time…. begin within our own communities to build an alternative currency/barter system, NEVER EVER USE A BANK AGAIN. No mortgages or car loans. Go to private people with money and borrower for your car loans to them. If you keep your own money without paying taxes, you are already better off than you are now and believe me, they are out there. I know, I used to help direct people to them to avoid the banks…Now I am glad I did.

    This should do two things…. the first and most important is to get them out of here. I think once they realize no one is going to play with them anymore, they will go to dubai and that would be poetic justice. LOL

    The second thing it would do is crash the system by doing away with the Krutch, which is the credit system, and we would also be off fiat currency. If the system isn’t working anymore, then ignore it. Let them play in it, and not us. How ironic that the social security retirement system is more viable than private retirement because of the manipulations of the market that periodically extracts peoples retirement from the markets….. that is a sad commentary about how socialist this system has become.

    There is plenty more you can do peacefully without confrontation. Your only limit is your imagination… get together with others in your neighborhood and begin brainstorming and you will be surprised what you can come up with.

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  36. #36 Ingrid B
    October 2nd, 2008 at 10:01 am

    Can you spell e-a-r-m-a-r-k-s! Are they bloody kidding! the 700 billion was ridiculous to begin with when this all started when the “cards started to come down”. The figure was just made up by a “talking head”. Now we have a plan made up by many “talking heads”. I think it time for all Americans, who are under the gun, to pick up their “torches and pitchforks”. Throw the bums out!!!! This is not a baseball game, but I think bats are in order! I am frustrated, mad as hell and saying we should not take anymore of this BS. Vote them out!!! All of them!

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  37. #37 Shirley Rickett
    October 2nd, 2008 at 10:01 am

    The least understood about the economic system of today, lies in our not understanding the ramification of HJR-192 now codified under Title 31 Section 5118 which encompasses Cahpter 48, 48 Stat pg 112 within that same resolution that Congress enacted into positive law. This became Public Policy, so we have not had laws enacted on the law side of the equation for a very long time. Public Policy is not law it is private law for the extraction of even more REVENUE out of the pockets of the citizenry through the alphabet agencies who enact their laws and prosecute us if we are found guilty of the crime of breaking those laws i.e. driver license laws, fish and game laws, department of child services laws and ad naseum, at least enough to make me vomit. But the real deal through this resolution is that it is the responsibility of the CORPORATE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT to discharge dollar for dollar the debts of the American Citizens. Question is, have they done it? We had no need to give up our gold and help the corporate government out of bankruptcy any more than the banking speculators of today with this bailout. We, at that time had our labor and property hypothecated as collateral for the corporate governments debts. FDR proclaimed that it would be the American Citizens who would be the CREDITORS from which all institutions would go to initiate loans.

    So every application we sign, whether it is for a home loan, a car loan, a social security application, a business license, a marriage license, driver license, or any other contract we enter into knowingly or unknowingly, because they never disclose we are giving using our credit when we sign for any of the above. Federal Reserve Phamplet out of Chicago on page 6 they FED freely admits, we don’t loan our money, we don’t loan investors money, then what the H—L do they loan. THEY LOAN US OUR OWN CREDIT AND SHOULD, ACCORDING TO LAW HJR-192 give us the check to go get the home or car or anything else we desire with it being discharged dollar for dollar. INSTEAD THEY MAKE YOU THINK THEY HAVE LOANED YOU MONEY. AND THROUGH SLIGHT OF HAND CREATING THE MONEY OUT OF THIN AIR. THEY SELL YOUR PROMISSORY NOTE ON THE MARKET AND ARE PAID RIGHT UP FRONT. THIS IS ACUTAL AND CONSTRUCTIVE FRAUD. SO NOW WITH TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF LIQUIT ASSETS, WHICH YOU CAN CHECK FOR YOURSELF ON THEIR WEBTISE, WE ARE EXPECTED TO BAIL OUT THESE PRIVATE INSTUTIONS WITH MORE OF OUR CREDIT. REMEMBER THERE IS NO MONEY OF ACCOUNT ONLY BONDING GOING ON, SO THERE DEBT NOTES CANNOT PAY DEBT AND NEVER WILL AND THAT IS WHAT THE UNIFORM COMMERCIAL CODE IS ALL ABOUT NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENTS THAT ARE DEBT INSTRUMENTS THAT ARE OBLIGATIONS OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. AND WE CONTINUE TO LET THE FED RUN OUR COUNTRY. LET’S BURN DOWN EVERY EDIVICE AND RUN THEM OUT OF BUSINESS. LET’S PUT OUT THE INFORMATION TO ALL PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET THE OUT RIGHT FRAUD THAT HAS BEEN COMMITTED AGAINST THEM RFEGARDLES OF RACE COLOR OR CREED. DO WE GET IT YET. WE ARE THE CREDITORS!!!

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  38. #38 Pepper
    October 2nd, 2008 at 10:08 am

    Don’t wait, begin by assuming its already fallen cause it has if the congress passes this abortion on Friday. Remember, they are only puppets now… both candidates are puppets and both candidates and one VP candidate voted for this mess last night, they are all owned by the banker rockefellers CFR arm and here is their agenda and you can now see it playing out right in front of our faces…this is why you can’t get the puppets(traitors) to listen to us, this is moving us toward
    “GLOBAL FASCISM”….. as recommeded by the CFR itself and that would mean bankers and corps would do the governing of a global new world order without sovereignty, which means what we have been experiencing in being ignored will be even worse.

    http://www.cfr.org/publication/9903/sovereigntyandglobalisation.html

    As Ron Paul said yesterday very clearly…..
    “if this passes we will be slaves and will enter a dark ages the likes of which we can not even imagine”. So you best get cracking on alternative ways to exist without them. ITs important we do for the salvation of our children and thier children

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  39. #39 VeniceMentor
    October 2nd, 2008 at 10:40 am

    President George Bush in a speech to Congress on SEPTEMBER 11, (9/11) 1990, SAID THIS: “[The war in Iraq is] a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled times…a New World Order can emerge.”

    Can it be any clearer with all that has been happening these last few months? All this is just another stepping stone towards the “New World Order”.

    Regarding bad loans, one third of these loans were given to illegal aliens. 38 billion of our money is sent annually south of the border by many who are not here legally.

    How many of you are aware of a huge shipping port being built in Baja? Bigger than the Los Angeles Port. This is all so that shipments coming in will not be regulated by our laws? Everything that comes into Los Angeles harbor can now be brought into Baja where Mexican truckers, who do not abide under the same rules as our American truckers, can drive “whatever”, across the border into the US. Hurray for NAFTA?

    WE are being bled dry by our government, and by those who hate this country with their desire to bring it down to its knees. Be afraid, very afraid, unless you act and fight for what you do not want to happen. Vote the bums out, make it clear we will not be still.

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  40. #40 Patricia
    October 2nd, 2008 at 10:45 am

    Oct 2, 2008 @ 10:40 a.m.
    The correct verbiage for the Wall Street evil is not “bail-out”. It is the “hostile corporate take over of America”. This is clearly a carefully laid plan to take over America & overthrow the people’s government. The “bill” (S. Amdt. 5685 to H.R. 1424): currently in front of the House, creates a 4th branch of government which controls all banking & wealth in America. It will have no oversight & the persons will be immune to prosecution. This branch will be private & therefore not subject to our Freedom Of Information Law which allows the people to hold government accountable. This is also true of the private corporations that have taken over the “voting” of America. These two pillars of a free society will never see the light of day. These most important functions in a democratic REPUBLIC are then gone and therefore, so is a free America.
    Simply put, Congress will hand an empty paper bag with the words “$700 Billion dollars plus derivatives” written on it. (The expected true amount is approx 5 Trillion dollars.) Then the Federal Reserve Bank of NY (private bank) will print up the monopoly money & fill the bag, hand it back over to Secretary of Treasury Paulson who will then write the checks to the extortionists. The private Federal Reserve Bank who orchestrated this whole melt down / takeover will begin charging the American taxpayer interest which will far surpass the horrific principal. Add to that the CHERRY PICKING which has begun the new wave of criminal activities by the corporatist elite who will now centralize all the wealth of viable corporations under the ownership of the very few elite. I do mean very few, about 13 families total.
    We the slaves will work harder in the hamster wheel, children will have NO parents, houses we now cling to will be empty with the exception of a rare shower or nap. All this so that the few elite can have ALL power & wealth. In the end we will default on the “loan”. The collateral for such a “loan” is all the natural resources in America. End result will be, Americans will be homeless, own nothing, have no control over our natural resources which will then belong to the central bank. Hmm! A Glass of water may sure well sound great!
    Slavery is supposedly against American law. Below is the list of slave traders in red. Will the American slaves keep the slave traders in 33 days? I say JAIL THEM!!!!! Their votes are acts of tyranny as well since this is an attempt to take over American government & they are aiding the enemy who are by enlarge foreign persons.
    The melt down of the corporatist despots was the opportunity for freedom in America again, for summer evenings together on the front porch sipping lemonade, pushing a child in a swing, enjoying laughter & love. The slave traders below work diligently to ensure we will never again know such.
    How the Senate voted Wednesday on the financial bailout bill (S. Amdt. 5685 to H.R. 1424):
    Akaka (D-HI), Yea
    Alexander (R-TN), Yea
    Allard (R-CO), Nay
    Barrasso (R-WY), Nay
    Baucus (D-MT), Yea
    Bayh (D-IN), Yea
    Bennett (R-UT), Yea
    Biden (D-DE), Yea
    Bingaman (D-NM), Yea
    Bond (R-MO), Yea
    Boxer (D-CA), Yea
    Brown (D-OH), Yea
    Brownback (R-KS), Nay
    Bunning (R-KY), Nay
    Burr (R-NC), Yea
    Byrd (D-WV), Yea
    Cantwell (D-WA), Nay
    Cardin (D-MD), Yea
    Carper (D-DE), Yea
    Casey (D-PA), Yea
    Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
    Clinton (D-NY), Yea
    Coburn (R-OK), Yea
    Cochran (R-MS), Nay
    Coleman (R-MN), Yea
    Collins (R-ME), Yea
    Conrad (D-ND), Yea
    Corker (R-TN), Yea
    Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
    Craig (R-ID), Yea
    Crapo (R-ID), Nay
    DeMint (R-SC), Nay
    Dodd (D-CT), Yea
    Dole (R-NC), Nay
    Domenici (R-NM), Yea
    Dorgan (D-ND), Nay
    Durbin (D-IL), Yea
    Ensign (R-NV), Yea
    Enzi (R-WY), Nay
    Feingold (D-WI), Nay
    Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
    Graham (R-SC), Yea
    Grassley (R-IA), Yea
    Gregg (R-NH), Yea
    Hagel (R-NE), Yea
    Harkin (D-IA), Yea
    Hatch (R-UT), Yea
    Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
    Inhofe (R-OK), Nay
    Inouye (D-HI), Yea
    Isakson (R-GA), Yea
    Johnson (D-SD), Nay
    Kennedy (D-MA), Not Voting
    Kerry (D-MA), Yea
    Klobuchar (D-MN), Yea
    Kohl (D-WI), Yea
    Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
    Landrieu (D-LA), Nay
    Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
    Leahy (D-VT), Yea
    Levin (D-MI), Yea
    Lieberman (ID-CT), Yea
    Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
    Lugar (R-IN), Yea
    Martinez (R-FL), Yea
    McCain (R-AZ), Yea
    McCaskill (D-MO), Yea
    McConnell (R-KY), Yea
    Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
    Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
    Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
    Murray (D-WA), Yea
    Nelson (D-FL), Nay
    Nelson (D-NE), Yea
    Obama (D-IL), Yea
    Pryor (D-AR), Yea
    Reed (D-RI), Yea
    Reid (D-NV), Yea
    Roberts (R-KS), Nay
    Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
    Salazar (D-CO), Yea
    Sanders (I-VT), Nay
    Schumer (D-NY), Yea
    Sessions (R-AL), Nay
    Shelby (R-AL), Nay
    Smith (R-OR), Yea
    Snowe (R-ME), Yea
    Specter (R-PA), Yea
    Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
    Stevens (R-AK), Yea
    Sununu (R-NH), Yea
    Tester (D-MT), Nay
    Thune (R-SD), Yea
    Vitter (R-LA), Nay
    Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
    Warner (R-VA), Yea
    Webb (D-VA), Yea
    Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea
    Wicker (R-MS), Nay
    Wyden (D-OR), Nay
    All

    Any one notice that other that the violation of section 8 of the Constitution the Senate is also violating Section 7, this is a revenue authorization and spending bill.
    Corporatism, or corporate fascism is the consequence of government debauching the currency. By blaming corporations for this you are condemning free enterprise and facilitating something much worse than corporate fascism, communism. This is government malfeasance and criminality not corporate it is an important distinction. The consequence of inflation is that prices get out of the reach of all but the rich and production will not come from a private agency, government becomes responsible for the production of goods and services, corporation is but a puppet for government and government a puppet of the international banking establishment. And so, free trade agreement, and regulation which is a code word for wage and price controls.

    Frank Waggoner (Candidate for SC Dist 5 House Seat)

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  41. #41 Jada
    October 2nd, 2008 at 10:50 am

    I can’t beleive it, they were all bought off..that’s how this passed. Busch is a terrorist, that’s obvious. He’s terrorizing his own nation, and using bullying tactics to rob us. Taking the last of what he can before he’s out of office. I am not voting for any clown who voted for this obvious robbery and deceit. This country has not been free for a long time. Our founding fathers are reeling in their graves. And Americans refuse to wake up. They are happily drugged on random feel good prescriptions, driving their 12 mpg Hybrid SUV’s and feeling good about themselves. Everyone still thinks they are working towards the American Dream..which does not exists any more. When you do retire..there will be nothing left, and you’ll be working at the 7-11 until you die.
    Anyone else want to go live in the middle of nowhere, up in the hills, and live off the land? Seriously, those living off grid are not crazy, they are smart.

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  42. #42 Backatyou
    October 2nd, 2008 at 11:14 am

    Here’s an idea. Bailout for us. Quit paying your credit cards, bank loans, mortgages, et cetera.
    Too destructive? I think not.

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  43. #43 sylvia
    October 2nd, 2008 at 12:06 pm

    The United States Senate passed the sweetened ‘New and Improved’ bailout bill last evening (Oct. 1, 2008). With a 74 aye and 25 nay vote, the bill passed in a landslide.

    What WAS ORIGINALLY a $700 BILLION bailout of the Banksters, has now morphed into a ’sweetened’ $850 BILLION “feel good” package.

    How many times have WE said we want clean Bills? How many times have we said we want Bills that deal with ONLY the issue at hand? How many times have we screamed, “No more riders! No more add-ons!”

    NOW THEY have done it again!! Stuck a bunch of add-ons into the Bill to make it palatable to the Senators to the tune of an EXTRA $150 BILLION! Ultimately, it will cost every man woman and child $10,000 to “feel” better about bailing out the Banksters.

    Say, “No Way!!!” to your Congressperson. They vote tomorrow, Friday, October 3.

    PLEASE remind your CONGRESSMAN their job is to CONTROL the purse strings. This bailout, no matter how “good” it feels, is not responsible government. Let the Free Market reign. Let Those fall who unscrupulously lent money to people who couldn’t afford it. The poor folks who have fallen from this unethical behavior have already fallen. They can’t get any lower. They’ve lost it all.
    Let the Perps bear the consequences of their actions. What an insult to ask us to cover their backs.

    The scripted mainstream media (MSM) talking heads, carry water for those who want the bailout. Don’t listen to their tripe.

    Remember: The MSM routinely lies and spins because they are propagandist mouthpieces. Also, remember: Almost everything they say, exactly the opposite is true. So if they say, “the sky will fall if we don’t…” The TRUTH is, “the sky will fall if we DO…”

    Will NOT bailing out the Banksters have global consequences? Probably. At this Country’s founding, were we intended to have these kind of entanglements with other countries? NEVER.

    We are no longer the freest people (nation) on earth BECAUSE of these kinds of entanglements.

    Lean on your Congressperson to vote “No” on this bailout. Don’t accept some condescending statement that “you just don’t understand the global implications…” blah, blah, blah.

    Don’t swallow that kool-aid.

    Also, remind the “Gentle Congressperson” this is an election year, that you will be watching their vote closely, and you have every intention of voting for their opposition if their vote on this issue is not representative of your position.

    THEN don’t let your words be an idle threat. If your “representative’s” vote doesn’t represent you, quote Donald Trump, “You’re FIRED!”

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  44. #44 Wolf in sheeps clothing
    October 2nd, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    Ben Bernake (Fed Reserve Chairman) appearing before Congress asking for money: what’s wrong with that picture folks? It is a proven fact that The Federal Reserve Banks are owned by CORPORATIONS!! They may as well have set some Fortune 100 CEO’s in the seats beside Bernake to ask for money.

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  45. #45 Kevin
    October 2nd, 2008 at 12:21 pm

    I was wondering if you had the emails for, or know where I can get the emails for Boxer, and Feinstein.

    They don’t seem to be listed at:

    http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW_by_State.shtml#ca

    and I’d like to try and make a difference if you could provide me that information, I’d greatly appreciate it, thank you.

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  46. #46 sylvia
    October 2nd, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    I had asked my congressmen for add-ons , yep I did. I asked for fines and time for the
    Banksters , pay back to the American People of all those millions that were robbed from us when the parasitic parachuters started opening. All of their replies were form letters. So much for that effort. Yes emails are useless

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  47. #47 John
    October 2nd, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    Enough of this crap. Let the Revolution begin.

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  48. #48 sylvia
    October 2nd, 2008 at 1:04 pm

    I have recently found out that safty nets that were set up after the depression to keep this kind of thing from happening again was overturned by congress eight years ago..

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  49. #49 Lakelover
    October 2nd, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    Sorry, but i think we need this bailout…If it does not pass, we will all B in the worst financal situation that none of us has ever seen…We won’t B able to get (ANY) credit, & our world lives on credit…If it dries up, it will B devastating…There will B no jobs, people won’t B able to buy a house or a car, (Unless they have the cash), & businesses won’t B able to borrow money either..More jobs lost…..Businesses borrow money to survive, especially small business….So i am hoping & praying that it passes…It may not B the very best thing to do, but it is the (ONLY THING) we can do…..

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  50. #50 MG
    October 2nd, 2008 at 2:41 pm

    Find your representatives here:

    http://www.congress.org/congressorg/directory/congdir.tt

    There are links to their individual pages with email, phone and fax numbers.

    Demand NO or it will be their heads!

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  51. #51 MG
    October 2nd, 2008 at 2:44 pm

    Sylvia,

    What are the details on these safety nets after the depression and when exactly were they overturned???

    >>>>>>>>
    “I have recently found out that safty nets that were set up after the depression to keep this kind of thing from happening again was overturned by congress eight years ago..”

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  52. #52 ken
    October 2nd, 2008 at 2:56 pm

    $800 billion into the pockets of those greedy slim buckets.

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  53. #53 May Hemm
    October 2nd, 2008 at 3:22 pm

    Yikes. Don’t let their fear tactics work on you. Don’t sell yourself to the lie that we ‘need’ credit. Credit and debt is how criminals have taken control of - and bankrupted this country. I have lived affluently and comfortably for years without borrowing a dime, and started with nothing… less than nothing… and anyone can.

    If they pass this - this country is DONE. Absolutely DONE. It will LITERALLY be a hostile corporate takeover.

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  54. #54 Luis
    October 2nd, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    Hey here are the letters I sent my Congressman and Senator, not pretty:

    Dear Senator Martinez,

    The oath you pledged upon signing into office was to serve your constituency’s best interest and above ALL else to serve The Constitution of the United States. Yesterday you failed at both. You passed a bill that is almost unanimously unpopular throughout this country and grew capitol hill along with it’s UNConstitutional buddy, the Federal Reserve, to monstrous proportions our forefathers would be shocked and appalled by. Your yes vote, along with the other vultures in Washington, was a loss for capitalism and I fear your tyranny knows no bounds. As an oppressor of the basic unalienable rights of the American people, I am calling upon your swift resignation as well as everyone else who voted yes on this bill. The Constitution clearly states that it is a document meant to limit the powers of the elite and not the common man, yet you burden us so, and leave us without a peaceful means of voicing our complaints. Where was my representation in the Senate? Why was my voice stifled!? You’ve betrayed your oath and your country, and should be ashamed. The Constitution as a protector of the individual from the aggression of power hungry politicians acts to limit your power, and all powers NOT delegated to you or the other branches of our Federal government are to be handled by our local governments or the people. Liberty has long been attacked by your kind, but this is an outrage worthy of action and none of you should sleep comfortably this night! You carry on in the image of your “conservative” hero George W. Bush and I quote, “Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”. Well Mr. Martinez it was my first line of defense, against monsters like the two of you, I’d hate to have to show you the others, the people WILL NOT stand for these grievances! I will be working on a full list of outrages and expect an answer, I pay A LOT of money so you and your cronies can reallocate it, so make it snappy would you?! If you think my language harsh repeal the First Amendment! True lovers of liberty are waking up, WE DON’T NEED YOU and in fact would be FAR better off with you producing wealth instead of leaching on ours. Your shell game of rearranging wealth is transparent we see through this scheme! I will do everything in my power to make sure you do not see the Senate building again, as long as I live. I have voted Republican as the lesser of two evils ever since I was able to vote. DO NOT expect my vote and I will recommend the same to everyone that I know! I’m also going to call for your immediate impeachment. But first “dear servant to the people” a quote:

    “Good evening, America. Allow me first to apologize for this interruption. I do, like many of you, appreciate the comforts of every day routine — the security of the familiar, the tranquility of repetition. I enjoy them as much as any bloke. But in the spirit of commemoration - whereby those important events of the past usually associated with someone’s death, or the end of some awful bloody struggle - are celebrated with a nice holiday, I thought we could mark this July the 4th, a day that is sadly no longer remembered, by taking some time out of our daily lives to sit down and have a little chat. There are of course those who do not want us to speak. I suspect even now, orders are being shouted into telephones, and men with guns will soon be on their way.
    Why? Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth - and the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn’t there?
    Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who’s to blame? Well, certainly there are those who are more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable. But again, truth be told, if you’re looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.
    I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn’t be? War, terror, disease. There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best of you, and in your panic you turned to the now High Chancellor, (insert politicians name here). He promised you order, he promised you peace, and all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent. Last night I sought to end that silence. Last night I (place act of civil disobedience here), to remind this country of what it has forgotten. More than two hundred years ago a great citizen wished to embed the fourth of July forever in our memory. His hope was to remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than words, they are perspectives.
    So if you’ve seen nothing, if the crimes of this government remain unknown to you, then I would suggest you allow the fourth of July to pass unmarked. But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek, then I ask you to stand beside me one year from tonight, outside the gates of Parliament, and together we shall give them a fourth of July that shall never, ever be forgot!

    With a few modifications this is a speech from V for Vendetta, a movie about tyrannical governments and the people who rally to stop them. Careful in your attempts to control people Senator, because 1) more oft than not you wind up controlled and 2) people will only suffer injustices so long. One more quote before I bid you adieu, “People should not fear their government, their government should fear the people”. Another quote from V for Vendetta, let these words ring in your ears until you can stomach them no more, you rattle a sleeping dogs cage in the American people, the repercussions will be of your own (un)doing!

    In Liberty,
    Luis Matos II

    Mr. Putnam,

    Your arrogance in regards to the passing of this bill, especially when most of your constituents were opposed to the measure speaks volumes. I just got through giving Mel Martinez a thorough tongue lashing, get ready for a verbal barrage. As a congressman your oath is to serve your constituency and voice their concerns as their elected representative (i.e. the guy who REPRESENTS them in assembly, hint, hint.) and to defend the Constitution. With your voting record and hearing your statements on this particular issue, you have neglected your oath. The Constitution is meant to protect the lay people from their government, and by you and your cronies trampling on it, you take away our means of defense. In times past in this country when the means of defense against tyranny were usurped, oddly enough by the tyrants of government it was meant to constrain, they made for themselves new weapons with which to defend themselves. King Henry pissed on the Magna Carta some 200 some odd years ago, and you carry on in his stead with my Constitution, sir. You are outnumbered, and if you’ve looked at approval numbers, REALLY unpopular. If government is the negation of liberty you are just another string. There comes a time when we must cut the strings which bind us and the time is LONG overdue. DO NOT tell me what is ‘best’ for me, I’m an individual, and as is ALWAYS the aim with liberty, I, being in the most acute case a minority, am to be defended. Anyone who does not respect the rights of the individual cannot be a defender of the minority! The ‘common good’ is socialist propaganda and I will not stand for it. You den of robbers, your OVER REGULATION of the markets caused this bubble, PUMPING MORE money into that bubble, does not fix the issue at hand! It will buy time, but what I want isn’t time, what I want is JUSTICE! People like you and Ben Bernake owe a great many Americans for the injustices we’ve suffered at your hands, and so if you vote yes on this plan again, I will ask for your resignation. If my words come across as harsh, REPEAL the first amendment! For granting yourselves powers not stated within the confines of our Constitution, for debasing the value of our dollar through your fiat currency, and for spending us into absurd proportions far outside of your jurisdiction I hold you accountable. The reason this bill shouldn’t pass has nothing to do with ’stabilizing’ the economy (much like the stabilizing efforts enacted during the great depression which helped prolong rehabilitation more than a decade!) it is a matter of the powers vested in your office and from whence they are derived, namely the power TEMPORARILY, and honestly probably foolishly, GRANTED you by the American people! We’ve held up our end of this social contract, but a contract is only as good as both sides handle their side of an agreement, I’ve held mine and have been over encumbered by yours. You take our wealth, without creating any of your own of which society can benefit,and now on TOP of your already misaligned ‘reallocation’ programs, I’m supposed to hand you 850 BILLION DOLLARS!? Quit regulating the markets! Consider this a warning, the ire of the American people is upon you. All powers NOT relegated to you are reserved to the PEOPLE and our local governments! This is outside of your jurisdiction because it’s NOT YOUR MONEY! If you go through with this, I DEMAND that I stop being taxed because I will not pay for this! Slavery has been ABOLISHED and a MANDATORY taxation is slavery of a kind UNIMAGINABLE. As it stands you overspend, so much so that most Americans work 6 months out of the year to pay for your projects, which are both inefficient and overpriced, and still with all this taxation, you can’t spend within a budget?! UNBELIEVABLE and UNACCEPTABLE!? Where’s the accountability? So now, with just your words of assurance I should just PUT EM UP and hand over MORE money because you know what to do with it, and if not the sun will surely fall out the sky? Sorry, I cannot with good conscience let you do this. The markets ‘tumbled’ (READ: Began to readjust SANS intervention)Monday. It wasn’t the end of the world, in fact stocks are going up in value! And again wall street DOES NOT help the economy, they produce, much like you congressman, no REAL wealth (i.e. goods) and are not the backbone of the American Economy! Your scare tactics do not intimidate me nor the majority of Americans one bit. If you want to kick start the economy vote to balance the budget, vote to abolish the income tax so Americans can invest and buy more goods and services, vote to end the Federal Reserves tyrannical attack on the U.S. Dollar, and vote to keep government aggression, at home and abroad, in check! Repeal minimum wage laws to REDUCE unemployment. Quit the government monopolies on everything from the schools, to the medical field, to barbers, and taxis for goodness sake, to INSPIRE people to become entrepreneurs and create NEW wealth and more jobs! I will be watching how you vote, if it is anything other than NO, consider this a small taste of what’s to come!

    In Liberty,
    Luis Matos II

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  55. #55 Wakeupsheep
    October 2nd, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    You are a fucking idiot!!!!!

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  56. #56 Wakeupsheep
    October 2nd, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    Lakelover comment 49, that comment was for you.

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  57. #57 Onkel D
    October 2nd, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    Did you know the Japanese own 3/4 of Las Vegas? Did you know the Japanese own 4 buildings that we conduct business in withing New York City, Did you know the Japanese take advantage of American Companies like Cybercorp, Polaris, and share technology, and do something called Patent Flooding in Japan to seize the rights since Patents pass faster in Japan, Did you know that companies in Japan own stock in any company they are conducting business with (ie: Toyota owns stock in a parts supplier) to cut the cost of their business and prevent outsiders from conducting business within Japan, Did you know Japan has the most extreme Trade-barriers, so extreme they don’t actually really support the Free Trade that North America, South America, and Europe support. Did you Know that Japan owns 4/5 of our Govt bonds and controls the trade of them within our borders?

    I have heard a lot of people talk about how bad it is for us to bail out the banking industry, and why it is bad, and that makes absolutely perfect sense, but if we didn’t bail out these banks, Who do you think would have stepped in and bought out the rights to our banks had we not chosen to bail them out? If not the Japanese, the Arabs are next in line, Don’t get me wrong, Japanese bitches are hot, but I don’t want to be taking out loans and paying my finances to these guys who don’t really support free-trade. People in the U.S. are so quick to make a quick buck and retire early and sell property and businesses to the Japanese (just look at the many buy and sell realtors everywhere, especially with small businesses, causing layoffs and cutbacks).

    SO KEEP DRIVING YOUR TOYOTA!

    Just saying, I think the bail out may not have been such a bad decision…

    I also am not in any way shape or form writing and english paper, or an article, and I am a lover of mathematics, physics, and engineering, so before you go nitpicking at my horrible grammar, run ons, mispelled words, capitilizing, etc. remember, that I did not care to try and fix these things.

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  58. #58 jitko
    October 3rd, 2008 at 2:03 am

    I have a really great Congressman who voted “no” and will again (Texas #14). Congress rejecting it again is our only hope. I don’t know what I can do other than e-mail friends and family. Senate has shown us that we are officially a plutocracy and that they do not care what we serfs want or don’t want.

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  59. #59 jitko
    October 3rd, 2008 at 2:15 am

    #30: Nothing’s wrong with voting for Paul but in many states you can’t even do a write-in and most (all?) of the time write-ins don’t count anyway. Paul will not be on the ballot of his own Congressional district and we can’t even do a write in if we wanted to. Voters have been stripped of voice and power. Welcome to fascism.

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  60. #60 Oregonian
    October 3rd, 2008 at 12:46 pm

    Calling your local congressman, woman or senator is like calling the wolves who are leading the lambs to the slaughterhouse.

    It will make no difference.

    The only way to end this is to take back our country and the only way to do this will sadly end up being by force.

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  61. #61 Jada
    October 3rd, 2008 at 1:24 pm