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Re:freemasons everywhere? 2008/05/19 18:38 Karma: 43  
FDR Took us off the Gold Standard and put us on the Silver Standard. This allowed for more money to be lent and other assorted issues which allowed for us to maintain an intrinsinc value on the money rather than what the Federal Reserve was doing at the time. The actions for coming off the Gold Standard are pages and pages in a book. I am summarizing here.

Readers are receiving mixed messages. In one post you claim you are anti-FED and in the next you find reasons to excuse FDR. Instead of accepting rationalizations found in books, start questioning. Who benefitted from:

1. Gold Confiscation
2. No Pearl Harbor Warning
3. Social Security (The ultimate Ponzi scheme)

As for Food prices. The two MAIN culprits are 1: Increased cost of gas. and 2: Selling off Corn, Wheat, Rice and a few other products to be changed to bio-fuel and not considering demand or possible accidents that curtail production.

Go beyond the economic line being feed to you by the media. Food costs haven't increased, the Fiat Dollar is simply worth less. In the Roman Empire, an ounce of gold would purchase a neat toga, shoes and a swell head ornament. Today, an ounce of gold will still purchase a three-piece suit, shoes and a hat. Nothing has changed; the value of gold remains a constant. Fiat money contains the hidden taxation of inflation.

How the hell can I be a Mason and be part of this ohh so big conspiracy and at the same time fighting a Forcluser on my second house.

You thought the slogan "In God We Trust" found on every Federal Reserve Note meant you could trust the FED. By the way, that slogan was brilliant.

I have heard but had trouble believing until now, that wlessard's attack on Thoreau's sexuality is an ingrained Masonic trait too. - And accompanied by some rather ridiculously shrouded homosexual innuendos but I will refrain from some of that research.

William's anger towards women has been unveiled. While I don't know if it's a Masonic trait, I do know a sexist when I see one. Generally "Good-old-boy's-clubs" attract men that want to return to the "keep women barefoot & pregnant" days of old; days when men were in complete control. I understand this desire; everyone wants to be in control, including women. I guess any woman who challenges his authority must be a lesbian. Sorry to disappoint you William; I truly love MEN ... real MEN. The key to understanding most women is simple ... we want to be protected and understood. By attacking, you do the reverse.
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Re:freemasons everywhere? 2008/05/20 03:46 Karma: -18  
OKay David, Thoreau you are choosing to IGNORE that I caught Thoreau in a deliberate lie? As if it does not matter that this person, since Thoreau has claimed both sexes, has lied that it is okay?

Of all the things you can accuse me of here one is NOT lieing.

I think the funniest is accusing me of not treating women as equals. I am just not Politically Correct. If I think a joke has a humorous point I do not care who is offended by it. The most interesting part of the statements of opinion about me and woman are just because of a couple of joking insults... the complete stereotype of a "Dumb Blonde"

Why do blonde women have bruised belly buttons?

Blonde Men and dumb too.

In a very technical sense I am prejudice against blondes of any gender.

In the specific context of what I had for knowledge of Thoreau when I talked about a Blonde Bimbo I was making a reference to a female. Or thought I was until Thoreau stated him/herself to be Male. So either then Thoreau was lieing deliberately or now Thoreau is lieing deliberately.

Either way I will go with my assertion that a Roll of Toilet Paper is perfect Avatar for Thoreau. Either way you are full of shit.

Zekiel honestly I want to know. I see what is being presented and understand some of it and I see holes in the solution that you can drive a Mack Truck through and I ask.. how do we cover these holes. At the same time I have to endure the constant carricature of Masonry to be slanders and have false witness born upon it.

I am trying to find out the limit... which I am seeing very clearly now of David's knowledge and research. It is very very little compared with the real complexity of the problem.

Readers are receiving mixed messages. In one post you claim you are anti-FED and in the next you find reasons to excuse FDR. Instead of accepting rationalizations found in books, start questioning. Who benefitted from:

David you completely ignore the point. YES IGNORE. I just am not sure is if you ignore it because it goes against your whole planned exposition or ignore it because you are that ignorant and lazy of finding out the truth.

I am NOT exonerating FDR for anything I am PRESENTING FACTS.

FACT - HE took us off the Gold Standard - You even agree with this.
FACT - He put us on the Silver Standard - I think you have agreed with this.
FACT - He signed Presidential Directives that enhanced some of what the Federal Reserve could do.
FACT - He was a Mason and at least 4 of his 26 Cabinet Members over 12 Years were as well.
FACT - The Bulletin or some other image David produced said something about trusting your Brother Masons.

Okay these are FACTS can we agree to all three?

I find it very funny that in that list you don't include what I believe is the worst thing FDR Did. The Detention of 120,000 or so Japanese "for the good of the Country"
Almost a Genocide against the Japanese.

Exerything else is supposition. Everything else about FDR that has been presented is assumption. Everything else is just an opinion.

I have done nothing more that present Facts about FDR.

I HAVE constantly and with 100% directness stated that Masonry is not a conspiracy behind all this and that Masons are good men. I have also said that Masons are human and therefore not perfect and some are wrong at times.


Go beyond the economic line being feed to you by the media. Food costs haven't increased, the Fiat Dollar is simply worth less. In the Roman Empire, an ounce of gold would purchase a neat toga, shoes and a swell head ornament. Today, an ounce of gold will still purchase a three-piece suit, shoes and a hat. Nothing has changed; the value of gold remains a constant. Fiat money contains the hidden taxation of inflation.

Technically without the influence of lack of supply before the prices jumped almost 200% in the last couple months Costs on everything were pretty much EXACTLY the same as they were 100 years ago.

Yes Gold and Silver are fairly standard with minor flucuations that have no bearing on the actual value over time. One of the reasons that it is GOOD to base a Currency on the value of these items. I wonder if Diamonds would work too?

William's anger towards women has been unveiled

Don't you love people who read in too much to a statement.

My anger towards Thoreau not women or men in general. After all I have proved Thoreau has claimed to be both male and female.

Stupid Political Correctness pigeon holes you for a joke.. Good or bad joke it still encourages people to conduct mind control and thought control.

You know most jokes that are about some "Type" are exemplifying the stereotype by holding it to humor thereby actually deflating the stereotype and inflating the reality that the stereotype hides that people are not stereotypical but actually better than the stereotype.

Now how the hell other than my comments just above did you even get Sexual Preference out of what I said David?

I said nothing about homosexuals or lesbians.

I did comment about Hermaphrodites but that is a scientific word describing someone who has both sexual genatalia. Seriously how do you get me saying anything about someone being a Lesbian. I said no such thing.

But then again you see certain words and phrases and you make connections even though those statements are somewhere in the neighboorhood of lightyears apart.

I figured nothing would be actually said about Thoreau lieing about his/her gender and it would be turned back as an attack on me.
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Re:freemasons everywhere? 2008/05/20 05:45 Karma: 21  
wlessard wrote:
OKay David, Thoreau you are choosing to IGNORE that I caught Thoreau in a deliberate lie? As if it does not matter that this person, since Thoreau has claimed both sexes, has lied that it is okay?


It is you calling Thoreau a liar that is a lie. But then according to you, I am a liar too; even if I back my "lies" with photos and documents?



Regards,

David Merrill.
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Re:freemasons everywhere? 2008/05/20 07:24 Karma: 26  
Oh MY GOD!!!

You all... my wife weeps daily for the state America is in.
I feel the deepest sadness in my heart for what I have learned, but had no real concept of just how bad things in the World really are.

William, this is not a knock on Masons OK?
David and Thoreau, thanks for the reminders and inspiration to seek and to learn... I have grown more in the last 2 months than the previous 20 yrs!!!

Flags... Banners.... War Powers Act... Trading with the Enemy... Admiralty... How?

I am at a bit of a loss for words... this is a MUST SEE!!!
FDR actually, not only placed the US into perpetual Emergency Powers, but in reality, it is a Formal Declaration of WAR on the American Citizen, under Trading With the Enemy and War Powers Act of 1917 as amended by executive order...Chap.106,sec.2(c) amended 1933 Sec.ss.(b)of Sec.5 (40 Stat.L.411)

http://www.barefootsworld.net/admiralty.html
Treason In Government! Admiralty Law!

How else could Admiralty be allowed to Chattelize our Courts? Non Constitutionally!!!

As I said, this renders me speechless...
"You have the rights antecedent to all earthly governments; rights that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws; rights derived from the Great Legislator of the Universe."
John Adams, 2nd President of the United States
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Re:freemasons everywhere? 2008/05/20 08:09 Karma: 7  
Yes, I would definitly agree that to be the main gear in the machine. The whole period around 1933 is a *Must Read* as to what exactly was being designed by the Federal Reserve bankers. Almost like it was a giant banker's fraternity party ... the verbiage in the Act also errily mimics the 14th amendment.

I'm still researching alot of it, theres alot there buried in the propaganda.


Here's
Trading w/ Enemy Act. (as amended)
Title 12, 95a
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode12/usc_sec_12_00000095---a000-.html

12b, same act
Approval of Sec. of Treasury powers
Title 12, 95b
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode12/usc_sec_12_00000095---b000-.html

David Merrill has posted some superb research material on FDR, statues at large and stuff from that time. Was some really active years ... alot of change. Agriculture acts, banking act ... HJR-192 ... It paints a portrait once the pieces are aligned right.

Abolishing property rights was at the top of the list it seems.

Take Care,
Matthew Duane

EDIT: I thought Barefoot's World was taken down, thanks for that link. Its been so long since I've seen that site. Its got so much information on it I get to read it again like its the first time.

Rest Well!

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Re:freemasons everywhere? 2008/05/20 08:41 Karma: 43  
As if it does not matter that this person, since Thoreau has claimed both sexes, has lied that it is okay?

Aliens forgot to remove your anal probe. I NEVER claimed to be a man. Check my profile. If someone disagrees with you, you automatically label them a liar and begin your badgering. Thank goodness for men like David, Zeke and Dream or I'd become a lesbian (nothing is wrong with that anyway).
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