I don't think <--- Truest 3 words Thoreau has ever said about himself.

That's: SHE. If you must continue your vindictive tirades, please use the correct personal pronouns.

Thoreau I really hope you like shoe leather. You are constantly putting your foot in your mouth.

Shoe leather is getting rather expensive so, in the future, I shall make every effort not to chew on my shoes.

Now wanting answers to these issues and how to deal with them AFTER the Federal Reserve is gone is intelligent thinking NOT defending the Fed.


Your very questions reflect your support of the FED. Inflation is 'running wild' and America's economy is like a giant snowball. The Farm Bureau indicates the cost of food spiraled 38% in the past year and, like a snowball, it should increase another 60-80% in the next year UNLESS we're at the bottom of the hill (which I doubt).

Your polemics are vacuous, history proves that. One LAST time :: in the past, whenever Fiat Money was created, the same cycle prevailed: boom then bust; it is the nature of the beast. Because of personal animosity, you refuse to acknowledge historical precedent on Fiat Money or consider David's logical solution. The FED owns your home, your business. You depend upon them to sustain your family. In doing so, you become a slave to the system. Fear has paralyzed your logic and you respond with mundane slurs.

I have held FDR up to the facts and I try to judge him by his times and what he said about himself.

By condoning FDR’s confiscation of gold, you implicitly support FDR.

I am suprised you understand even half of what David has posted about saving our Economy and our country with that inability.

Sometimes I don't understand him but then I ask questions. I have challenged David in the past and will continue challenging him. He has handled each challenge with grace and dignity. When you are challenged, you respond with defensive, obtuse remarks and you wonder why your Karma is taking a nose-dive. It's not me and I don't think it's David, Zeke or other regulars.

Instead you will just continue to make a fool of yourself by calling me a liar?

David: You're the liar, I'm the dolt. What does that make William?

wlessard wrote:
If you paid for the business with private credit from the Fed, the Fed holds a naturally curing first lien on everything in your business. You like that idea? [It is a form of percentage slavery - only being enslaved by 35-45% not counting hidden taxes of inflation etc.]

You are obviously not making sense.

You are saying basically everything bought with FRNs are owned by the Federal Reserve? Everyone who lives in a house that was bought with a Mortgage and paid for by FRNs has done it to only beholden to the Fed?


Correct. Its a privelege to use a private central banks script for your affairs. You bond yourself to it by voluntary contract.

Its like if you contracted to use MY own currency. I can place whatever terms I want on it. Pay me 50% interest and you must follow all my new rules for taking the benefit of using my currency.

What even better is if I ran out all other mediums, or hid their existence, than you would be forced to obtain loans from me just to even work ...

Muah! Hah Hah Ha! .. oh sorry, having some fun again.

If you do not wish to follow the new rules and still use my currency i'll send my cohorts to take your substance , throw you in jail, ruin your life ... all just for not giving me my cut of my currency.

I think since the apartment complex is not at a loss for any of the rooms than why should I pay them again for that which is already paid for by me. The loans were based on the risk I would be a slave and not defend my founding fathers and conutries history.

EXCELLENT POINT

I say, liquidate all the corporations ... every single one. Have a giant 'free' bake sale and give it all back to the people ...

Sorry Dream sounds too much like socialism to me.

That is very clever but it implies that there is substance behind the loans the corporations received.

Currently defense companies are in megabucks heaven. What is the substance? Count the dead, count the profit.

That's: SHE. If you must continue your vindictive tirades, please use the correct personal pronouns.

I have my pronouns right. You just screwed up big time dumbass.

I reffered to you using the term "Blonde Bimbo"

Your reply in post 5089

Either way keep taking those jabs that make you look like some blonde bimbo who doesn't have a clue.

I've never heard a male referred to as a blonde bimbo but nice alliteration or :: more meanderings from a moronic Mason.

[band Masonry is NOT a faith. It is allegory and parable to emphasize philosophy. Compatible with any religion that accepts a GOD.[/b]

Does that mean atheists can't join a Masonic Lodge? Is a belief in God a prerequisite for membership?

It speaks volumes that you have switched to ad hominem arguments.

Bill's arguments usually contain ad hominem logic. That's part of his charm. With a closed mind, he defends Masonry like one defends a religion. It's an interesting parallel.

http://www.restoretherepublic.com/component/option,com_fireboard/Itemid,27/func,view/id,4554/ catid,13/limit,6/limitstart,24/#5089

I have been wondering Thoreau when you were totally screw up. So what are you... where is the spin here? Are you a Hermaphrodite? A Dual Personality off your meds?

What lies do you have to try and get out of this one?

You obviously are deceptive and pretty much an idiot.

By condoning FDR’s confiscation of gold, you implicitly support FDR

I would rather David say this than some flea-bitten idiot like you but here goes AGAIN.

FDR Took us off the Gold Standard and put us on the Silver Standard. This allowed for more money to be lent and other assorted issues which allowed for us to maintain an intrinsinc value on the money rather than what the Federal Reserve was doing at the time. The actions for coming off the Gold Standard are pages and pages in a book. I am summarizing here.

Your very questions reflect your support of the FED. Inflation is 'running wild' and America's economy is like a giant snowball. The Farm Bureau indicates the cost of food spiraled 38% in the past year and, like a snowball, it should increase another 60-80% in the next year UNLESS we're at the bottom of the hill (which I doubt).


No they reflect a need to find the answer to fill in the blanks that David has not properly helped us to understand. Means I have to do my own research.

As for Food prices. The two MAIN culprits are 1: Increased cost of gas. and 2: Selling off Corn, Wheat, Rice and a few other products to be changed to bio-fuel and not considering demand or possible accidents that curtail production.


Your polemics are vacuous, history proves that. One LAST time :: in the past, whenever Fiat Money was created, the same cycle prevailed: boom then bust; it is the nature of the beast. Because of personal animosity, you refuse to acknowledge historical precedent on Fiat Money or consider David's logical solution. The FED owns your home, your business. You depend upon them to sustain your family. In doing so, you become a slave to the system. Fear has paralyzed your logic and you respond with mundane slurs.

I am not resisting the history of Fiat Money I am pointing out that before the 1920's and the Federal Reserve when money was on either a Gold or Silver standard that there was up and down every 20 years or so. High times and depressions. It had to do with the fact that GOld and Silver are NOT elastic. When the Federal Reserve had enough control it made elastic money and proceeded to keep up out of a depression or even major recession in the last 70 years since the 1930's. I am NOT supporting the FED with these questions I am asking how the hell do we keep the good (Lack of depressions and monetary crashes) while getting rid of the bad (the fiat money system that binds us almost as strongly as slavery)

Now one last question for the idiors in the audience.

How the hell can I be a Mason and be part of this ohh so big conspiracy and at the same time fighting a Forcluser on my second house. If I am such a Shil for the Masonic Higher ups where is my frigging money and immunity to the shit everyone else is dealing with?

If Masonry is so bad and behind all this shit why is a Mason being left behind?

Just thought ya might wanna know, it ain't me. I in fact, actually increased Bill's karma 2ce, as I recognized 2 weeks ago, he is actually seeking understanding, of what is a very difficult thing to grasp.
It is just your nature to be skeptical correct, William?
Seems fair, if a person as high intelligence, is typically tougher to convince of a thing contrary to all previous schooling. It has taken me over 30 years in fact, to come around... too smart fer me oin goods Ah-cah-cah-cah-cah... shivers me timbers an blows me downs!!!!

About gold and silver standards... is it possible, Money Masters, Eric WhoRU and a guest on Alex Jones I mentioned a few pages back, are correct about the hypothesis, the Central Bankers after the Civil War wanted the US back on the Gold Standard, because they knew they would soon control most of it, if they did not already? Is it possible they are correct, that silver is much more abundant in the US and harder to monopolize, because we are the worlds largest producer of it? Is it possible, Lincoln had a great idea, that would have worked for generations in a paper currency in addition to Gold and Silver Standards, of creation of Money As Value, at the time of lending?
This is evidence that perhaps FDR and Lincoln were both well meaning and smarter than I gave them credit?
Even G Edward Griffin has argued against Congress regulating currency, as they cannot be trusted? What the hell then? That is the Constitutional Remedy that was argued against, in 1913, in favor of turning control over to private interests, like who? Warburg, Rothschild, Morgan, Shiff? The private interests we ended up with?

So, this would be a case that some of the Masons involved, wheather 33rd Degree or Honorary or not, may have had it right. Then again, there were those stooges like Wilson!!! DOH!!!-( 8(l)

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=money+masters
money masters - Google Video

Like it or not, this is a hell of a team... ALL of YOU!!!

Post edited by: zekiel, at: 2008/05/19 08:04

Just thought ya might wanna know, it ain't me. I in fact, actually increased Bill's karma 2ce, as I recognized 2 weeks ago, he is actually seeking understanding, of what is a very difficult thing to grasp.

It is just your nature to be skeptical correct, William?


Wlessard makes allusions to currently reading a very good book on macroeconomic history. Meanwhile he attacks people and calls us liars - while, speaking for myself I am documenting my assertions with photos and documents from the Congressional Record etc. Like I admonished wlessard to begin with, I am using his irrationality to bring up edifying points to the Readers here.

FDR Took us off the Gold Standard and put us on the Silver Standard. This allowed for more money to be lent and other assorted issues which allowed for us to maintain an intrinsinc value on the money rather than what the Federal Reserve was doing at the time. The actions for coming off the Gold Standard are pages and pages in a book. I am summarizing here.

The charters of the Fed banks were expiring after 20 years. People were seeking the remedy written into §16 of the Fed Act and redeeming gold for their FRNs.

http://Friends-n-Family-Research.info/FFR/Merrill_FRNs_not_dollars.jpg

FDR was a banker's banker. The bankers had been issuing elastic currency for twenty years and as people realized that inherently meant false balances - that there was not enough gold to cover all the notes, a Run was immenent. Therefore FDR made it illegal to own gold. FDR covered the stellionation of selling out America to central banking by making it illegal to own our own gold:

http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_TWA_Collections.jpg

Wlessard's statement is a perfect example of Masonic appeasement. Just like we have read in the Sandusky Masonic Bulletin. For wlessard to continue defending the confiscation of American's gold and say he is anti-Fed is simply two-faced and I think it annoys Thoreau. She has her way of expressing her anger and to me it is obviously female. She strikes me to reason, no offense, in that she is all woman.

I have heard but had trouble believing until now, that wlessard's attack on Thoreau's sexuality is an ingrained Masonic trait too. - And accompanied by some rather ridiculously shrouded homosexual innuendos but I will refrain from some of that research - like Scarlet and the Beast because it is distincly anti-Mason and I am actually pro-Mason in at least they (Woodrow Wilson) saw fit to write the remedy into the Act and provide me through Masonic chancellory at Colorado College, a federal repository and of course the Mason Library and Museum where I can find out the history and facts I bring here.



Regards,

David Merrill.